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SoulCalibur 2 VS Tekken
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| Slave_Zero |
 Δημοσιεύθηκε: Δευ Μάϊ 03, 2004 2:42 am |
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:: r00k ::
Συμμετέχει από: 02 Αύγ 03
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Τόπος: Naousa(Greece) - Portsmouth(England) |
SoulCalibur 2 VS Tekken 4. Maxh titanwn !!!
Opws kseroume kai ta dio auta sinarpastika paixnidia einai ta pio diashma sth kathgoria tous, kathos exou trabiksei kai exoun agapithei apo ekatomiria atoma ston planith.Egw exw psifisei to Soulcalibur 2.Proton gia emena auto to paixnidh einai eleutheria.Mporeis na kaneis otidipote trelo,xazo,adianohto kai na piasei ston antipalo.Enas allos logos pou protimaw to SC2 kai genika ola ta SC mexri twra apo thn Kathgoria twn Tekken einai pos se periptwsh pou kleisteis apo ton antipalo[ se strimoksei sthn gwnia as poume(Astaroth vs Yoshi)] mporeis na ksefigeis eukola(guard impact, Ring out,guard brake ,weapon clash. ) pragma pou sto Tekken den ginete auto, kai an pragmatika ekei se strimosei o anipalos tote ..... kala na patheis,afou se strimokse  .Ena allo pou exw proseksei einai pws sto SC to paixnidh mporei na girisei ana pasa sthgmi.Sto tekken auto den ginete sixna.Ena allo meion pou exei to Tekken 4 einai to ekseretiko pleonekthma pou exoun dwsei ston Jin ( one Character to rull them all) ,Megali adikia.  
Telos tha ithela na pw pws kai ta dio auta games exoun tin dikia tous omorfia to kathena.Elpizw twra me to Tekken 5 i Namco na proseksei na min epanalifthoun kapoia "xaza" Bags pou uparxoun sto Tekken 4.
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| vamp |
| Δημοσιεύθηκε: Τρι Μάϊ 04, 2004 7:41 pm |
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:: HooKeD ::
Συμμετέχει από: 09 Απρ 04
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basika to Tekken einai kalo alla san to Soul Calibur den exei  |
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| Vetus |
| Δημοσιεύθηκε: Τρι Μάϊ 11, 2004 12:33 am |
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Αδιαμφισβήτητα το κορυφαίο Soul Calibur 2. Μπορεί τα προηγούμενα της σειράς να μην είχαν την δημοτικότητα του Τekken, το οποίο πλέον έχει γεράσει, αλλά κανένα άλλο fighting δεν έχει πιο πλήρες gameplay και μεγαλύτερο playability από το Soul Calibur. Άσε, δε, που τα weapon fighting - τέτοιο ήταν και το ξεχασμένο διαμάντι της Atari Mace: The Dark Age για Ν64- είναι πιο συναρπαστικά από τις κορεσμένες μάχες χέρια με χέρια. Όχι ότι με χαλάνε, δηλαδή, ωσάν fighting games fan που είμαι...Το γεγονός ότι πολλοί gamers πρωτοαγόρασαν το Dreamcast για το Soul Calibur λέει πολλά. Tώρα, μάλιστα, που το Soul Calibur 2 κυκλοφορεί για ΟΛΕΣ τις κονσόλες και η Namco του έδωσε μεγαλύτερη προώθηση από το Τekken 4 θα αναθεωρηθούν οι γνώμες και τvn πιο mainstream gamers για το ποιό είναι το καλύτερο fighting.
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| maiku |
| Δημοσιεύθηκε: Τρι Μάϊ 11, 2004 1:19 am |
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:: ANiME.oNe ::
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| Hikotsimaru |
| Δημοσιεύθηκε: Πεμ Μάϊ 27, 2004 9:14 am |
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:: oBSeRVeR ::
Συμμετέχει από: 22 Μάϊ 04
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Τόπος: Τριτη πορτα δεξια |
| Soul Calibur με κλειστα ματια |
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| Yuto Kigai |
| Δημοσιεύθηκε: Πεμ Μάϊ 27, 2004 5:48 pm |
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:: LeaRNeR ::
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Τόπος: Where the Current takes me... |
| Ως παικτική αξία και διασκέδαση, τα Soul Calibur (και τα δυο) υπερτερούν σαφέστατα (γι αυτό και τα ψήφισα). Απο την άλλη, το Tekken είναι πιο κοντά σε επίπεδο ρεαλισμού (όσοι είναι φαν), αλλά: Έτσι κι αλλιώς παιχνίδι είναι, ΔΕΝ χρειάζεται ρεαλισμός, αλλά διασκέδαση. Οπότε Soul Calibur. |
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| Xristman |
| Δημοσιεύθηκε: Κυρ Ιούν 13, 2004 11:25 pm |
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:: oBSeRVeR ::
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| MasterV |
| Δημοσιεύθηκε: Τρι Ιούν 15, 2004 10:04 am |
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:: LeaRNeR ::
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| Φυσικά και Soul Caibur. Το Tekken κατάντησε σούπα πλέον. |
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| Ground_zero |
| Δημοσιεύθηκε: Τρι Ιούν 22, 2004 8:47 pm |
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Τόπος: Right behind you... Τώρα Βλέπω: Mesa sto myalo sou.... |
Prwton tha hthela na kanw mia parathrhsh. Thelete na poume poio mas aresei poio poly h thelete na analysoume "PRAGMATIKA" tous logous gia tous opoious kapoio apo ta 2 einai apla kalytero?
Anyway egw tha afisw tis proswpikes mou gnwmes kai tha pw 1-2 pragmata sta opoia to Soulcalibur 2 yperterei tou Tekken 4 - Tag.
(Lavete yp opshn sas oti paizw kai ta 2 games prwtathlitika kai mou aresoun eksisou to kathena me ton tropo tou.)
1) Prwta erxetai o tropos me ton opoio kratas amyna sta 2 paixnidia.
Sto Tekken h amyna ginetai kratwntas to D-pad pisw enw sto SC ginetai me kapoio koumpi. Se ti einai xrhshmo afto tha peite?
Exontas thn amyna se koumpi, o xarakthras afhnetai eleftheros na kinhthei sthn arena pros 8 katefthynseis (to gnwsto 8-way run tou soulcalibur) To paixnidi etsi ksafnika ginetai "pragmatika" trisdiastato eleftheronwntas tous xarakthres kai dinontas tous perissoteres epiloges kinhshs. (Sto tekken den mporeis na trekseis pros ta pisw h diagwnia logw tou guard system tou )
2) To soulcalibur 2 exei ta gnwsta se olous ring outs. Afta dinoun prwton mia allh aisthish strathghkhs sto game alla defteron kai poio shmantiko einai oti me afto ton tropo eksisorropountai oloi oi xarakthres dioti me ena ring out mporeis na isofariseis efkola akoma kai an eisai se meiwnekthma.
Ston antipoda to tekken prosferei arenes kleistes apo oles tis meries. Afto sthn pragmatikothta den einai kako giati prosferei kati kainourio se afton ton tomea fighting paixnidiwn. Mporeis na prosfereis wall combos kai to systhma kai h strathghkh alazei. DIstyxws to meiwnekthma einai panta ekei. Ean kapoios xarakthras xtyphsei se kapoia gwnia tou ring, DEN MPOREI na ksefygei me roll pros to plai!!! Afto evnoei ta infinite combos (gia ta opoia einai poia gnwsto to tekken 4) ta opoia mporoun kai na skotwsoun apo thn arxh tou agwna. Sth xeiroterh twn periptosewn ta infinites kai oi toixoi genikotera den evnwoun eksisou olous tous xarakthres (opws ta RO sto SC2) me apotelesma ta yparxoun oitroi Top tiers opws o JIN, o Lee, h Xiaoyu, o Paul, o Heihachi ktl ktl.
3) Trito erxetai to thema tou juggling system. To tekken DEN exei air escape!!! opote kai evnoei ta thanathfora juggle combos ta opoia mporei an einai theamatika kai dyskola sthn ektelesh men alla etsi kai peseis thyma tous vlepeis panw apo mises mpares na eksatmizontai apo thnarxh tou agwna.
To SC2 antitheta me thn texnikh "Air escape" tou vohthaei sthn meiwsh twn apisteftwn combos kanontas adynaton na xtyphsoun kapoia combos pou tha htan thanathfora se alles periptwseis.
4) Guard impact!!! Isws kai h poio teleia texnikh pou skefthke kapoios na valei se fighting game. O antipalos ektelei ena combo to opoio einai fenomenika adynaton na apofygeis, ti kaneis tote? K apanthsh tou Tekken einai ta parry. Omologoumenws poly kalh skepsh alla oxi teleiwpoihmenh. Prwton den exoun oloi oi xarakthres parry (ektos apo to universall low parry to opoio epitrepei na diwxneis xamhla xtyphmata, omws mono ta xamhla kai meta den pernaei kaneis apo tous 2 se pleonekthma, alla oute kai exei thn epilogh o antipalos na sou antistrepsei to parry) kai defteron osoi xarakthres exoun parry tote afto tha isxyei mono gia ta pshla xtyphmata h mono gia tis grothies h mono gia tis klwtsies kai malista xwris thn dynatothta antapodwshs apo ton antipalo.
To SC2 twra prosferei thn epilogh guard impact me thn opoia mporeis kyriolektika na apofygeis opoiadhpote kinhsh sou petaksei o antipallos me ekseresh ta unblockables pou afta einai outes h allws efkola gia na ta apofygeis. To kalytero edw einai oti ean katafereis kai ekteleseis swsta to gard impact tote erxesai se pleonekthma men alla oxi sto APOLYTO pleonekthma de, dioti poly apla o antipalos mporei na antapodwsei me ena diko tou guard impact kai paei legontas. (Allo ena metro eksisorrophshs twn xarakthrwn.)
4) Top tiers: Afto einai ena kommati pou pragmatika ponaei to tekken.
Otan milame gia spasmeno xarakthra olwn to myalo phgainei ston Jin san prwth anafora.
Aftos o xarakthras einai apelpisthka anwteros apo tous ypoloipous (ean o Jin einai sto 100 kai einai prwtos tote o Lee pou erxetai defteros einai sto 50) Gia to theo mono 2 kinhseis xreiazetai gia na dialhsei ton opoiodhpote:
a) "Just frame laser scraper" einai ena combo triwn grothiwn to opoio ean ginei swsta einai unblockable, ypswnei gia juggle combos kai genikotera einai toso grhgoro pou kathista adynaton na tou ksefygeis
b) To parry tou einai tropmera periergo: Apofevgei OLES tis kinhseis eite aftes einai mpounies, klwtsies eite aftes einai wmoi, gonata, angwnies, otidhpote (ektos apo xamhles alla giaftes yparxei to low parry) kai san na mhn eftane afto, ean h kinhsh pou tha tou petakseis einai parapanw apo 15 frames taxythta (nai 15/60 tou defteroleptou) tote exei to apolyto pleonekthma na sou vfaei panw apo thn mish mpara energeias.
Apotelesma 2 parry kai pethanes.......
Sto SC2 yparxoun xarakthres san ton jin (Heihachi, Spawn, Necrid, Link me afth th seira einai megistoi pseftes) alla aftoi apagorevontai apo ta tournaments. Pragma pou den ginetai me ton Jin - Lee ktl ktl
5) H filosofia maxhs einai ligo diaforetikh sto tekken h strathghkh einai ksekathara: o xarakthras exei mia uber kinhsh kai prepei na thn xrhsimopoiw synexeia enw sto SC2 apla valane mia seira apo kinhseis dynates se olous tous xarakthres kai sou dwsan thn dynatothta na tis kaneis combo opws esy thes (custom combos anyone?)
Afto wfelei pragmatika tous megalous xarakthres dinontas tous thn efkairia na synagwnistoun tou mikrous kai grhgorous eksisou kala me opoiondhpote. Allh mia apodeiksh ths isothtas twn xarakthrwn sto soul.
6) Twra me to soulcalibur2 egine h eisagwgh se 2 akoma prwtopora features: Guard brake - Weapon clash kai fysika to Avoid - Step.
Ta guard brake einai kinhseis oi opoies profanws spane thn amyna kai etsi kanoun to game poio grhgoro kai poio peripwteiwdes (xwris omws na ginetai adiko dioti panda yparxei to palio kalo guard impact pou se swzei)
Ta avoid me thn seira tous dinoun thn efkairia se kapoion na mporesei na apofygei me plagio vhma combos kai kinhseis oi opoies se alles peristaseis tha htan sigoura xtyphmata. Apotelesma? Sto Soulcalibur tpt den einai dedomeno!!!
Tha mporousa na synexisw thn analysh alla pistevw pws afta ftanoun gia thn wra.
P.S: 2 pragmata pou prepei na diefkrinhsw oti me enoxlhse einai oti
a) To tekken mporei kai na mhn exei ta kalytera ending kai starting sequences alla to soulaclibur 2 exei tis pleon yperathlies skhnes telous se ola ta fighting.
b) O yoshimitsu sto soulcalibur einai men o ypertatos yoshimitsu alla safws sto tekken exei kalyterh emfanish.
C) Vlepo polous pou sigrinoun to tekken 4 meto tekken tag kai lene oti oute eprepe na vgeie kai oti einai axristo kai ta loipa.Tha diafonhso katheta mazi tous legontas pos ean theloun na kanoun sigrish metaksy tekken na sygrinoun to 3 me to 4 efoson apotelei synexeia to tag einai allh istoria tora telios diaforetiko pexnidi allh nootropoia kanena story diaforetiko systhma mhn peftete sthn pagida toy na to sygrinete.Tora gia tous allous pou lene oti to 4 den exei prototupia afto ki an einai lathos:
1)Protoparousiase tous toixous.(An kai afto den arese se merikous htan akros endiaferousa alagh.)
2)Synexomeno plagio vhma kratontas pano h kato.
3)Proth parousiash ths methodou just frame.
4)Gia proth fora to patoma ths pistas den einai omalo.
5)Position change.
6)Allhlepidrash me antikimena kai me anthropous ths pistas.
Tha mporousa na synexiso alla afta pistevo ftanoun.
P.S2: To tekken 4 eixe vgei poly viastika giati eixe dothei perissoterh proswxh sto SC2, omws twra me to tekken 5 ta pragmata dexnoun na diorthwnontai para poly. (den tha yparxei air escape - guard impact - 8 way run) omws sigoura tha exei ena apo ta kalytera practice mode pou yparxoun (by the way to SC2 exei athlio practice mode eno tou tekken 4 einai ena apo ta kalytera.)
Sorry an sas kourasa me ola afta alla hthela na tekmhrioso kapoia pragmata afta eyxaristo. |
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